I think I'm supposed to be working right now or something, but the blinking messages can wait.
I would like you to turn your attention to the following two articles: The Hipster Grifter, and Kari Ferrell: Criminally Hipster. (Update: Also: Hipster Grifter Victims Speak Out) (Update, Again: Hipster Grifter Writes a Well-Wisher, "Yes, I've Made Mistakes" The "Well Wisher" - Derek Erdman) (Update Once More: Meet Kari's Bail Bond Agent)
As some of you may know, because the story is almost always too good and crazy not to tell, this same Kari Ferrell infiltrated my group of friends last summer with her slippery (and in the end, totally outrageous) lies and tricks, and though my dear friend Richard Lawson has mostly laid out our experiences with her, I have a few things to add.
I had been "friends" with Kari for a few years on Myspace. I don't remember exactly how she found and added me, but it may have been through a friend-of-a-friend in Texas, of all places. We were never the sort of pals to write long-winded messages to each other, but I thought she was brave and funny. Her profile was filled with gross-out jokes and crude statements, and I didn't really know anyone like that. She seemed like a person who didn't care what others thought, and I have always thought that was an interesting way to be.
When she told me she was moving to New York, I gave her advice I would have liked to have. I hooked her up with a room my friend Alex was renting (yes, the one on Bergen. It was not "condemned", she was "kicked out"). I told her that I would show her around, introduce her to my friends, etc. And that's what I did. I met her after work one day, and we went to my friend John's house for a small get-together. She would crack Asian jokes at her own expense and say funny things and told us a great story about her real parents. We liked her. It didn't last too long, though, and not just because we thought she was a liar.
After first meeting her, I admired quite a few things about the way she operated, things that I now see very clearly as deceptive. I thought it was neat that she could talk to anyone and everyone, and how she could somehow find them interesting enough, and vice versa, to get all of their contact information and plans to hang out soon, all after a few minutes of meeting them. My friends were her first victims in New York in that regard. We were bombarded with texts and emails from her to hang out. She was constantly looking for something to do, somewhere to go. At first I chalked it up to being in New York for the first time, feeling a bit out of it and stir-crazy, as we all might. Then: it just got annoying.
I would like to say that my first huge problem with Kari was that I realized right away who she really was. That's just not true. The first real problem with Kari was that she was so markedly different than me and my friends. While I love and cherish my pals to the utmost degree....we don't really hang out that much. We email and text funny things daily, but we don't get together every day...sometimes, not even every week. Kari didn't seem to understand that, and so we all started twitching a bit and wondering if she was bugging the others just as much.
Then there was the matter of too many inconsistencies. For as much success as she's had conning people, she's not a very good liar. Or, not a very careful one. As The Observer article mentions, it's strange that she would use her real name. And that job she had at Goldenvoice? I introduced her to a friend who works for William Morris in the music department. I thought they would have a lot to talk about. She mentioned a bunch of normal first names to him, seeing if any of them stuck, and then would pretend to know the person he was talking about. Thinking back on moments like that, I can't believe that I didn't see it. When I was leaving my job at Jonathan Adler, she was very quick to say that she could get me one at Goldenvoice. She even had her "boss" email me. When I emailed him back (what a fool), the address didn't work. How curious!
Money is an interesting thing. It makes people lose their minds. Don't get me wrong: I think Kari Ferrell lost her mind a long time ago, which is sad. But, as more and more comes out about this girl, it seems that all of her lies and stories are rooted in monetary gain. We were lucky. Unlike her ex-boyfriend Casey, we were not victims of Kari in this way, aside from a few meals, drinks, or train rides here and there. That was not for lack of trying, though. Reading about her bogus check scam, my stomach dropped. She tried that on each one of my friends, including me. None of us went for it, and I can't tell you how glad I am for that.
Then comes the cancer. Oh, cancer. Such a fun and crazy thing to lie to people about! Especially people (and I would guess this applies to most people, sadly) who have lost a loved one to the very same disease. My own Papa Bill is watching Grandpa Bud struggle with this monster right now...it's not fun. It's not funny. There's nothing funny about it.
See, I didn't even know about the cancer. Despite being the one to have "known" her for the longest, I first heard about it from Chelsea and John, to whom Kari had light-heartedly confessed to having the disease randomly one night. Chelsea's employers work in the health care industry, and she went to them with Kari's story, asking if there was any way they could help Kari get the surgeries she so desperately needed, but couldn't afford. They were going to try to find a way to help her, but Kari never came through with any information for them. I think if I were dying of cancer, I would probably take any assistance I could get, and as quickly as I could get it. Kari just made excuses, and said that she didn't feel right getting help from strangers. I suppose she only feels right stealing it from them. Many lies and fake hospital visits and "coughing up blood" later, us kids got together, had a discussion, and made a decision.
We decided that Kari did not have cancer. We worried that we would look like huge dickheads if we were wrong. I mean, who lies about having cancer? We worried that we might be casting away this poor girl, whose adoptive parents were allegedly abusive, who seemed to have all kinds of trouble getting her finances straight. We're good people, after all. Or, we try to be, any way. It's hard with people like Kari coming in and blowing our minds.
I felt incredibly guilty for bringing all of the drama into our usually happy circle. I felt awful for getting her a place to live, with a person I'd worked with every day, for christ's sake. I felt like a naive doofus, who had been taken in by a scam artist. I warned every one I had introduced her to, telling them things like, "You know that girl? Kari? Yeah, I think she's a con artist. Stay away from her." That doesn't make me look very stable, now does it? I knew I had to be the one to tell her to fuck off. So I did. It sucked. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I still wondered if maybe we were all being the crazy ones.
She didn't deny anything. She didn't seem upset. She wasn't upset, I realize. Me, and everyone she'd met through me, were just people she pretended to want to know. She told us she had cancer. She tried to steal money from us, as if any of us has any money to steal. She would have taken things from us, knowing that her theft would mean that we wouldn't be able to pay the rent that month, despite working hard for the things we have. Well, not too hard, or anything: but still. I told her not to contact us any more. A few of us contacted the Salt Lake police department, who said they couldn't do anything, since she was in New York. The NYPD basically told us they had more important things to do, like, oh, solve murders and stuff. She sent a text to a friend a few days later, asking why he wasn't returning any of her calls. He perfectly replied with: "We know who you are."
And now, everyone else does, too.
I would like you to turn your attention to the following two articles: The Hipster Grifter, and Kari Ferrell: Criminally Hipster. (Update: Also: Hipster Grifter Victims Speak Out) (Update, Again: Hipster Grifter Writes a Well-Wisher, "Yes, I've Made Mistakes" The "Well Wisher" - Derek Erdman) (Update Once More: Meet Kari's Bail Bond Agent)
As some of you may know, because the story is almost always too good and crazy not to tell, this same Kari Ferrell infiltrated my group of friends last summer with her slippery (and in the end, totally outrageous) lies and tricks, and though my dear friend Richard Lawson has mostly laid out our experiences with her, I have a few things to add.
I had been "friends" with Kari for a few years on Myspace. I don't remember exactly how she found and added me, but it may have been through a friend-of-a-friend in Texas, of all places. We were never the sort of pals to write long-winded messages to each other, but I thought she was brave and funny. Her profile was filled with gross-out jokes and crude statements, and I didn't really know anyone like that. She seemed like a person who didn't care what others thought, and I have always thought that was an interesting way to be.
When she told me she was moving to New York, I gave her advice I would have liked to have. I hooked her up with a room my friend Alex was renting (yes, the one on Bergen. It was not "condemned", she was "kicked out"). I told her that I would show her around, introduce her to my friends, etc. And that's what I did. I met her after work one day, and we went to my friend John's house for a small get-together. She would crack Asian jokes at her own expense and say funny things and told us a great story about her real parents. We liked her. It didn't last too long, though, and not just because we thought she was a liar.
After first meeting her, I admired quite a few things about the way she operated, things that I now see very clearly as deceptive. I thought it was neat that she could talk to anyone and everyone, and how she could somehow find them interesting enough, and vice versa, to get all of their contact information and plans to hang out soon, all after a few minutes of meeting them. My friends were her first victims in New York in that regard. We were bombarded with texts and emails from her to hang out. She was constantly looking for something to do, somewhere to go. At first I chalked it up to being in New York for the first time, feeling a bit out of it and stir-crazy, as we all might. Then: it just got annoying.
I would like to say that my first huge problem with Kari was that I realized right away who she really was. That's just not true. The first real problem with Kari was that she was so markedly different than me and my friends. While I love and cherish my pals to the utmost degree....we don't really hang out that much. We email and text funny things daily, but we don't get together every day...sometimes, not even every week. Kari didn't seem to understand that, and so we all started twitching a bit and wondering if she was bugging the others just as much.
Then there was the matter of too many inconsistencies. For as much success as she's had conning people, she's not a very good liar. Or, not a very careful one. As The Observer article mentions, it's strange that she would use her real name. And that job she had at Goldenvoice? I introduced her to a friend who works for William Morris in the music department. I thought they would have a lot to talk about. She mentioned a bunch of normal first names to him, seeing if any of them stuck, and then would pretend to know the person he was talking about. Thinking back on moments like that, I can't believe that I didn't see it. When I was leaving my job at Jonathan Adler, she was very quick to say that she could get me one at Goldenvoice. She even had her "boss" email me. When I emailed him back (what a fool), the address didn't work. How curious!
Money is an interesting thing. It makes people lose their minds. Don't get me wrong: I think Kari Ferrell lost her mind a long time ago, which is sad. But, as more and more comes out about this girl, it seems that all of her lies and stories are rooted in monetary gain. We were lucky. Unlike her ex-boyfriend Casey, we were not victims of Kari in this way, aside from a few meals, drinks, or train rides here and there. That was not for lack of trying, though. Reading about her bogus check scam, my stomach dropped. She tried that on each one of my friends, including me. None of us went for it, and I can't tell you how glad I am for that.
Then comes the cancer. Oh, cancer. Such a fun and crazy thing to lie to people about! Especially people (and I would guess this applies to most people, sadly) who have lost a loved one to the very same disease. My own Papa Bill is watching Grandpa Bud struggle with this monster right now...it's not fun. It's not funny. There's nothing funny about it.
See, I didn't even know about the cancer. Despite being the one to have "known" her for the longest, I first heard about it from Chelsea and John, to whom Kari had light-heartedly confessed to having the disease randomly one night. Chelsea's employers work in the health care industry, and she went to them with Kari's story, asking if there was any way they could help Kari get the surgeries she so desperately needed, but couldn't afford. They were going to try to find a way to help her, but Kari never came through with any information for them. I think if I were dying of cancer, I would probably take any assistance I could get, and as quickly as I could get it. Kari just made excuses, and said that she didn't feel right getting help from strangers. I suppose she only feels right stealing it from them. Many lies and fake hospital visits and "coughing up blood" later, us kids got together, had a discussion, and made a decision.
We decided that Kari did not have cancer. We worried that we would look like huge dickheads if we were wrong. I mean, who lies about having cancer? We worried that we might be casting away this poor girl, whose adoptive parents were allegedly abusive, who seemed to have all kinds of trouble getting her finances straight. We're good people, after all. Or, we try to be, any way. It's hard with people like Kari coming in and blowing our minds.
I felt incredibly guilty for bringing all of the drama into our usually happy circle. I felt awful for getting her a place to live, with a person I'd worked with every day, for christ's sake. I felt like a naive doofus, who had been taken in by a scam artist. I warned every one I had introduced her to, telling them things like, "You know that girl? Kari? Yeah, I think she's a con artist. Stay away from her." That doesn't make me look very stable, now does it? I knew I had to be the one to tell her to fuck off. So I did. It sucked. Somewhere in the back of my mind, I still wondered if maybe we were all being the crazy ones.
She didn't deny anything. She didn't seem upset. She wasn't upset, I realize. Me, and everyone she'd met through me, were just people she pretended to want to know. She told us she had cancer. She tried to steal money from us, as if any of us has any money to steal. She would have taken things from us, knowing that her theft would mean that we wouldn't be able to pay the rent that month, despite working hard for the things we have. Well, not too hard, or anything: but still. I told her not to contact us any more. A few of us contacted the Salt Lake police department, who said they couldn't do anything, since she was in New York. The NYPD basically told us they had more important things to do, like, oh, solve murders and stuff. She sent a text to a friend a few days later, asking why he wasn't returning any of her calls. He perfectly replied with: "We know who you are."
And now, everyone else does, too.

89 comments:
Couldn't of put it better myself. What a horrid, horrid wench. UGH!
It's sad and pathetic that there are so many Kari's in this world who are so eager and willing to take advantage of nice people. After something like this happens it makes it harder to be one of the nice people, but don't let the Kari's ruin the niceness - stay sweet, stay nice and continue to believe there is good in everyone - just pay attention to those red flags!
Love you & your good heart!
Anonymous Mom
I may be the only person in the world she actually saved money. Because of Kari I didn't have to pay rent for two months. Although I think she stole a $20 from me. BURN HER AT THE STAKE!
I don't know anyone involved, in fact I live all the way out in Los Angeles, but I am totally fascinated with this story for some reason. I'm really sorry you had to go through all that with this girl. I'm very trusting too, so I can't help but think I'd fall for it as well. Don't beat yourself up or let it change the way you interact with new people too much...some of us are genuinely nice and have nothing but good intentions!!
I was her friend for 4 years...she didn't do shit to me but she was ruining my friends lives...so she had to go.
the worst is having a kid with a Kari. that's when lies get really heartwrenching. great article.
She stole my cell phone!
She stole your cellphone? A story that I left out of my post was the time she said she got mugged/robbed (her story changed depending on who she was talking to), and her phone was taken.
I felt bad for her, of course, so I gave her a busted-up old Razr that hadn't been used for years. I am SO glad I wiped it entirely clean before giving it to her. I guess it didn't have the energy for all her sexting, so she stole yours. My condolences!
Wow.
This is a guess but... could it be possible she had a rough childhood? Being adopted isn't that easy, and on top of that, being adopted in a mormon country. She is totally messed up and there must be a reason.
I have no doubt that Kari has problems, and while I don't know what her childhood was really like (please understand that this person lies about everything), I imagine that at least some of it must have been shitty. BUT, no one I know has had a perfect childhood. It's not an excuse for fucking people over left and right.
I'm not making an excuse for her. I'm just trying to make sense out of it all. If her environment growing up made her into a sociopath or not. I know another Korean girl who was adopted in a small town. She was not a pathological liar or thief, but she always felt she didn't belong. She turned that into crazy promiscuity. I'm just saying there is always a reason.
I agree with you. There must be a reason. Growing up an adopted Korean girl in Salt Lake must have been tough, and I'm sure it probably has something to do with who she is today. STILL...
I'm glad I've never run into this sociopath. I wonder what's the best way to deal with her? Can't really lock her up, maybe a psyche ward for study? Or maybe human trafficking to a sheikh in Saudi Arabia?
This whole thing has kinda hit a nerve. My friends and I got mixed up with a very similar girl last year. All the same lies, scams, made up stories about jobs and connections she has. At first I felt sad for her, I knew some of it was crap but I thought she was just trying too hard to impress people, she seemed to legitimately have money and with everything she was always offering I figured she thought she needed to buy her friendships.
I still have no idea what her actual story is, I finally sent her an email last summer saying to never contact me again. I know other people who have gone as far as to file restraining orders against her.
This type of person is a poison. I can't even bring myself to put her name in this as a way to warn other people to watch out for her because she creeps me out so much.
I hope they catch Kari.
my sister is EXACTLY like keri. it's so creepy (asian, tattoos, fake cancer, fake jobs, theft)!
i've tried to explain to my parents again and again, but they're in denial. and she didn't have a fucked up childhood.
This story is absolutely maddening and fascinating to me. I survived cancer when I was 21 years old and it was the most traumatizing, horrible experience of my life. I had to declare bankruptcy because of the medical bills but I have never asked anyone for a thing. For some reason, reading this story, I became terrified that people might think I was lying about being sick or about the reason for my terrible credit situation. People like her are disgusting. Don't feel badly about believing her or for anything you did for her. I rely on the kindness and trust of friends so much right now for things like co-signing when I need an apartment or letting me on their cell phone family plan because I genuinely had a terrible medical emergency beyond my control ruin me financially. It would break my heart if someone demanded to see my medical reports before helping me.
Wow.. It looks like justice is being served. Does anyone know if she still lives in new york? I helped her move out there (via airline buddy pass) and stayed with her for a couple nights, but other than that I wasn't a victim.
People who knew her in UT are getting off posting rude comments/the truth about her. Still though, people are being major assholes. I'm waiting to see what happens with her arrest or whatever happens from here
fuck anyone who lies about having cancer. what a mess.
I just watched Heartbreakers for the first time. I really envy this Kari girl, wish I had dem skillz.
I think I met you, Edgar. Did you come to a comedy show with her on her first night in town?
I am Kari's father. She was adopted in Arizona from Korea when she was 5 months old and we later moved to Utah with my job. Kari was a very bright child probably too smart reading 7th grade level when she started first grade. She got everything she wanted as a child, when you adopt a child you want them to have everything. She was in gymnastics, band, t-ball and many other activities. She had a very spoiled upbringing. I have no idea how she turned out this way, but I hope she gets help and whatever treatment is needed. Kari if you're reading this turn yourself in. I love you.
Great entry, Jodi. I'm glad the worst she did to you was annoy! My friends and I are the same way, we don't hang out much. I would be so irritated by her too.
I'm looking forward to reading through your blog more.
I still can't believe the range of Kari's impact. Coast to coast of non-stop motherfuckery. I was flabbergasted when I saw the Gawker post, read the original Observer article and then followed it from there.
Like, well, all of you, Kari lied, deceived and defrauded me and several other people I know. My stakes were relatively minor, considering I was 19, but others, friends of mine that wouldn't listen to the Swift-Boat-Veterans-for-Justice approach I took to warning them got boned. Big time. I wish the Internet would have ganged up on her back in 2004 when she was getting her shtick down to a shitty, mismanaged science.
Anyway, the networks are rising up and trying to shake her out of whatever hole she is hiding in and whatever heart she is, quite possibly and, yes, surprisingly, breaking.
-dh
Holy crap at the second last comment, though its legitimacy is debated.
WOW clearly she has mental issues which makes me loathe to publicly say anything about her. Bashing people on the net is now a national sport. Of course these people conned by her deserve to be outraged however. Her victims lost not only money (which can always be replaced) but trust and faith in people which is a lot harder to reclaim. Maybe this can be a clarion call for people out there who read this and recognize themselves (or see patterns in people they know) so that's something.
I fear this whole debacle will merely lead to a hasty book deal (I can see Judith Regan all over this) and money. If it does they people who offer a contract need to stipulate that paying all debts is part of the deal. She needs help though. Infamy is synonymous with fame now anyways.
Unless she radically changes her look (and wears a turtleneck everywhere, that tat is pretty distinctive) she'll surface soon enough.
This public humiliation might be the tipping point for her and she will try and commit suicide or something drastic. The whole thing is sad for all involved.
"could it be possible she had a rough childhood? Being adopted isn't that easy"
I call bullshit on that one; I'm adopted. Yeah, that can weigh on your mind as you grow up, but it didn't turn me into a habitual liar and thief. There's something far worse going on in her brain than where she merely came from.
A book deal does, sadly, seem inevitable. In fact, I really ought to stop, you know, doing nothing and get on that ship before it leaves port.
What weak titles could I hock into full-length books?
"Sex, lies and Twitter Feeds: a Tale of Deception and Destruction in the Information Age."
or
"1 New Friend Request: the Story of Kari Farrell, Social-Networker and Con-Artist Extraordinaire"
OR!"MySpace or Your Place: the Tragic Story of 'Hipster Grifter' Kari Farrell"
Any book publishers somehow shopping around for a largely-unproven talent with a black-belt in snark and the mis-ish-fortune of knowing the currently-relavent/famous Kari Farrell, as Richard Hell once sang, covering the similarly-titled Frank Sanatra song: I am your man.
holler back.
-dh
She might be Kim Jong-Il's biological daughter - thus explaining the psychosis.
I smell a book deal. Kari, email me!
Her whole situation just smells of mental disorder. I've been reading about her for the past couple days and it's just so fascinating all the stories and all the people coming forward saying how she scammed them. I ponder, wondering, if she believes the lies she spews like some people do. The fact that she keeps using her real name, to me, is further proof that it's a mental condition and not someone who is a professional grifter. I'm not condoning her actions but it's very understandable why people are angered with what she has done. Does she deserve jail time or mental health care? With the way this has all blown up recently I suspect she'll be caught very soon, or, worse case scenario she'll see no other way out and commit suicide...if she truly has a mental condition I wouldn't put it past her.
I have been reading all of this crazy stuff for a few days now. That chick is nuts. I live in Philly. If I see her here, I'm calling immediately.
D, I think you're right. Kari is obviously sick, and I think a mental institution is what she needs...not a jail. Then again, she didn't ruin my life.
"MySpace or Your Place: the Tragic Story of 'Hipster Grifter' Kari Farrell"
Sooo good.
its amazing how someone can seem to be very intelligent in some ways and so utterly stupid in others....
not to mention the fact she seems to genuinely be lacking any empathy or actual care for other people and their feelings/money/friendship...
sounds like she is missing part of her pre-frontal cortex or something...and possibly the ratio between white and gray matter in the brain or something like that...not that i know anything about brain psychology beyond a few pop articles.
she stole my cat.
So...
Do I have any takers on the book yet? Given the full-blown Internet Meme status this ongoing debacle has become, research would be unbelievably easy.
Despite having to reminisce some tainted memories and wade through other peoples' experiences with Kari, it is incredible how the Observer Article that was heard 'round the world somehow managed to reunite me with a lot of people I had fallen out of touch with in recent years. A few of these friendships were actually ruined by Kari, which gives all of this a nice sense of, oh what is it we youngs abuse so regularly, irony? Yeah, irony! Being reunited with old friends and, I suppose, being more closely-connected to Internet strangers, has been a surprising reward.
I should probably be working (the last 2 days have largely been spent mouth agape in shock or sneering in apoplectic rage over this Meme), but I just can't step away from this...
And again, all of you bored book publishers parsing through random blogger comment sections (there are hundreds of you, reading this right now, I bet) that want to take a gamble on an under-disciplined writer with no representation and even less knowledge of the abuses of the publishing industry: call me! I will have a draft of "MySpace or Your Place: The Tragic Story of 'Hipster Grifter" Kari Ferrell" in two months.
-dh
PS: Given that it seems like this story is going to reach a dramatic close any day now (what with the SLCPD being granted extradition privileges), more apologist info is going to start springing from Kari. Do not buy it. This is a crucial part of the con that has enabled her to remain unchanged for years. As the commenter that may have been her father summed up: No one but Kari is responsible for who Kari is and what she has done.
this sounds EXACTLY like a girl in philly named Noel Branin.
She scammed a whole bunch of stuff including money out of people and faked cancer for the past year.
People suck.
omg. i know exactly who you're talking about lisamarie. i knew something was fishy with that girl the second i met her. the whole cancer story was the biggest load of shit i've ever heard in my life. i didn't know she scammed money out of people, though.
whoa i feel bad for saying this
but this situation totally reminds me of a friend i have now
fortunately just socially not finacially
Excellent post. I've been enthralled by this story all day. Fascinating. Grifters always fascinate me for some reason.
And yeah...who lies about cancer?
(Now going to gobble up more Kari Ferrell info.)
I'm sorry (not really) to say this, but you all deserved to be scammed by that fugly psycho bitch. I mean seriously, what person in their right mind would fall for her shit? Maybe when she's caught, you can all join her in a mental institution.
regarding the above comment, it seems Kari probably had a lot of experience in picking out people she saw as "gullible" or "nice"....(though who she exploited perhaps she saw as "naiive" and "stupid" an unfortunate attempt to justify her behavior to herself)
a question I posted elsewhere as well:
Are any of these people in NY who apparently had cellphones/wallets stolen by Kari actually filing police reports?
Maybe if the police have a reason to take her into custody here in NY, this would make it easier for her to be returned to SLC for prosecution. (though I don't know much about such things)
I remembered I had a tragically neglected blogspot account so anonymous dh can finally go by his actual name again, which--oh, shit--is his actual name. Gulp.
But, getting down to biz-nass: did Kari exploit people that were gullible, nice or even stupid? Um, yes, you fucking dumbass. Only the Bernie Madoffs of the world have managed to exploit people that fall into the strata above gullible and nice, namely Kevin Bacon, who is smug and sneering at best.
It would be easy to lump everyone into gullible and nice bins, but, honestly, having experienced her Gob-like illusions first-hand (and believing in them for a short minute, too), I have to say that most of these people probably can't be distilled so easily.
Kari was a fucking glittering casino. She wasn't subtle about her lies; rather, her game was the equivalent of a strobe light on top of fog machine on top of mirrors, cocktail waitresses and the sound of slot machines paying out. In other words: she lied so much and so heavily that people (myself included) were too overwhelmed to even question the shit. Most people are trained to perceive dishonesty as a between-the-lines affair, not blatant, in-your-fucking-face-with-balloons-attached-and-a-cherry-on-top openness. That shit we are trained to see as the over-honesty of addicts, abuse victims and young, fresh-of-the-farm types.
My real point is: Kari didn't scam the archetypal trust-funded hipster. Rather, she milked the type of people that we want/need in the world: the waifish, "art fag" types that in high school had too many female friends. You know, the trustworthy types that were the best younger brothers and made perfect friends. Yeah, those guys. Instead of dozens of kinda-men growing up to be perfect husbands (we're talking Sean Bean's character from North Country), Kari has mutilated them and turned them into husks of nice guys with chips on their shoulders more debilitating than a hunchback's hunch, you know, on his back.
So, while it would be, um, easy to lump these guys in as easy cons on par with people that actually responded to Nigerian Scam Spam, the truth is a little more complex than that. I hope that isn't too hard to comprehend for you troglodytes and trolls that would lolz the death of your own grandmothers if you had the chance.
Can't wait to see where the weekend takes us.
Justice/Comeuppance or Bust!
-Derek Hardman (aka dh)
Take it away, trolls!
Perhaps what intrigues us, aside from her fallible nature. Are our own carefully crafted realities, minute in comparison, but equally feeble and deceptive.
There's a little Kari in everyone.
I'm pretty sure my childhood was more fucked up than hers. I was molested, abused, abandoned—but I have NEVER screwed anybody over the way she has. Let's face it, it's the person, not their upbringing that is to blame.
Lots of people do shitty things. She did some shitty things that happened to be illegal... got in over her head.
It may be en vogue to hate on Kari, but the reality is that she is no monster. People lie - boo hoo! She doesn't deserve to be subject of an internet manhunt... who is she, Bin Laden? Girl cashed some bad checks and did some morally reprehensible things, but she isn't a serial killer. Fuck it!
Agreed. I don't see that she has done much that was illegal in new york, aside from not paying hospital bills (which I suspect a great number of new yorkers do [or don't do] every day)
It seems like she has put many people in an unpleasant spot, but the things she is accused of doing are things a fair number of folks do.
The only unfortunate part is that she seems to gravitate towards trusting people, though I wonder if that's true. Perhaps she tries her luck with lots of folks, and only the more trusting (or naive if you like) ones take to her.
I don't understand how Kari's story has hit such a nerve with the general populace as to become pseudo news worthy.
I thought everyone had met someone who lied about a terminal disease. My partner is a teacher and there’s at least one kid a year who ends up pretending they're going to die or some such nonsense in an attempt to get attention, friends, money, whatever. It's endemic to the 17+ demographic isn't it ?
It really doesn't sound like her actions were premeditative so much as instinctive otherwise she'd have a more effective MO, as people pointed out she's not exactly a good liar just a compulsive one.
I understand a hurt she's caused but does it warrant the vitriol ? she's not a criminal mastermind living the highlife by conning cash out of the hipster community, she's a slightly fucked up girl who is so desperate for attention she makes up lies and ends up flitting from one shallow group of friends to the next desperately trying to find acceptance.
I frankly feel pretty sorry for her.
SG, I know in the WoW universe, everyday human concepts such as "trust," "friendship" and "honesty" can become abstracted, but, WTF, you need to STFU, like, immediately.
Just as it might be a tad gauche to bring an open container into an AA meeting and make statements like, say, "you guys need to loosen up. C'mon! Let's party!," you cannot step into a group of people burned by a particular person in very particular ways and generalize it into a "lots of people" type of equation. Lots of people starve to death. Lots of people avoid calls from their parents. Lots of people want to reach through the computer monitor and punch you right in your fat fucking face. Does a trend or majority vote legitimize any of these scenarios or, rather, standardize them to matter-of-fact normalcy/naturalness? Um, no. Not at all.
So for all the SGs of the world commenting here, Gawker, Viceland, Observer et al, leave all the commenting business re: Kari Ferrell to the professionals. You are enabling her and the many that are, sadly, like her or likely to become like her.
Have at it, trolls!
To Anonymous at 11:22:
While I understand that it might be tempting to feel sorry for her (I have before, and do to a certain degree even still), I think it's very silly of you to judge the situation as her "flitting from one group of shallow friends to the next", etc.
Though it's probably useless to defend myself and my friends from you, why not give it a go? You must know that we did not extend friendship to Kari for any reason other than that she seemed like a neat, funny, smart person, and having just moved to New York, we wanted to make sure she had some folks who knew her. While perhaps some of the people she encountered were drawn in by her Goldenvoice connection, or the not-so-subtle promise of sex (as for Kari's sexuality, I never perceived it as anything other than a 21-year old confident wild-child who was in New York City for the first time. I thought some of the things were crass and maybe a bit embarrassing, but the extent of her prowess was something I wouldn't have guessed, and is not really my business). We don't really go to shows, so that's out. As for the sex, I would like to say that my dear friend Chelsea and I are not, and are opposed to, what you would call "fag-hags", but.....we do basically only hang out with gay guys. So I guess we fall into the "group of shallow friends" category because...why?
I'm not saying we're martyrs or anything, we're not. We're all adults, and perhaps little red flags should have taken over our brains the moment she told her first lie. But, that's not how it happened. Whether it was naivety, gullibility, or just stupidity, we were duped, and that's that.
In any case, I think that even if my friends and I hadn't eventually figured out her schemes (and they are just that: they are scams, and she knows that she's trying to pull them, and it's her choice to do so), she would have been bored by us pretty quickly. I can admit that by certain definitions, yes, we might be called "hipsters". If we are, though, we're the tamest of the bunch. We just like to hang out and watch Rita Rudner specials and drink and laugh. We are not going to dance parties, not a one of us owns a piece of neon clothing, and we are not living off our parents. If you do those things, well, bully for you. I don't care much either way about the "hipster" element this story carries, though I understand the appeal.
And, I haven't joined the many people who are battle-crying. I think Kari needs serious, serious help, and I hope she gets it. I had a hard time sleeping the night after all of this blew up, because I kept thinking, "Fuck, what if she hurts herself?" Not only would that be incredibly sad, because she's a person, afterall, but I would feel partially responsible.
It's been interesting to see how different people have taken this story. I hope it ends well.
This young lady is a mirror, & here's what she's reflecting back: Overprivileged white hipsters with a command of the language who are just cogs in the entertainment industry going all Lord of The Flies on an absolutely ordinary run-of-the-mill scam artist as if they've somehow brushed against True Evil, which makes their panties so wet & their $300 Nerd Glasses so steamy that they feel safely superior enough to cluck, "so sad, so sad" as if they give a shit about anything besides who blew who & how it impacts their own "career" & social standing in their puerile post-highschool cliques!
From the Keyboard to God's Ear Delicate Condition: the "Hipster" elements of this story have, somehow-albeit-predictably, overshadowed the actual story (read: girl milks sympathy, kindness and other human emotions which have become rarified in our post-4chan world, defrauds friends in several cities and states, rinses and repeats).
All across the interwebs, people are getting their snark on, dumping cheap quips about nerd glasses, neon clothing, irony, facial hair et al, that are as dated as they are fucking lame.
For starters, and this argument goes beyond Kari Ferrell, why are people obliged to feel ashamed for being, well, cool or hip or culturally aware/involved?
"Hipsters" have ALWAYS existed. Being young and buying things and differentiating oneself apart from others has been around for millennia in some form or another. So what you buy new pants when there is another inevitable paradigm shift in fashion or keep up-to-date on matters of cultural media, i.e. music, film etc. Has the Anglophonic Internet become a leviathan of sorts affecting the smug laziness and ornery dismissal of any-and-all-things-that-were-dubbed-"cool"-after-I-graduated-from-college of an arm-chair reactionary?
And what is it with people still using twee, high school "skaters vs. jocks" lingo to describe so-called "Hipsters"? "Cliques"? Really? I know your sophomore year of high school can be tough, Mr. Hentai, particularly since you just moved to a new town and people just don't "get you," but...oh wait, you're an actual adult who should have been able to develop/adopt a vernacular for class/aesthetic criticism that goes beyond the charmless "rich kids suck" platitudes that are even too gauche for the preachiest of Archie comics.
Anyway, the long-overdue thesis of this whole sub-distraction-within-an-off-task-at-work-distraction has been repeated far too many times to even windtunnel again.
But, putting on the starched shirt of a Ted Haggard-style MegaChurch preacher: crimes being committed against anyone, regardless of class, aesthetics, age etc. is totally, completely UNACCEPTABLE.
Stop with the schadenfreude. Yeah, it's easy to hate the people we imagine working at places like Vice or living in neighborhoods like L.E.S. or Williamsburg (what with their ironic mustaches and American Apparel hoodies concealing glib references to defunct bands, which only slightly distracts from their too-tight colored jeans and their detached-to-the-point-of-in-your-face-ness facial expressions), but the fact of the matter is: these are real people. I, who got conned in the most un-fucking-hip city in the world, SLC, am a real person, too. Do I deserve my own chunk of mortal misery and a cot in hell? Abso-lutely. We all do. But to tolerate and even cheer people doing it to others is ridiculous and, cue Ted Haggard gravitas-tic zoom-in, morally reprehensible.
@Mr. Hentai- Good.
@Derek Hardman- Lame.
Shut up Derek. Sociopaths will target anyone, now matter how they label themselves.
Blogger killed my comment, Jodi, I'm pissed.
1. Congrats on your new internet fame, use it well!
2. Colby and I are sending out a personal invite to Kari to come stay in Seattle, we feel really left out in SEattle. I went on to talk about how we have booze and a couch, but you know, whatevs.
3. When did all this stuff happen?
"It's been interesting to see how different people have taken this story. I hope it ends well."
Indeed. I stand by my initial post of, "Wow."
Shut up Derek. Sociopaths will target anyone, now matter how they label themselves.No shit, sherlock (i.e. walkingrules).
I no that most of my posts abuse register and rely almost completely on one-hundred dollar words that are applied with the precision of flame-retardant foam, but, um, the whole point of those flowery posts was to give the
"Sociopaths will target anyone, now matter how they label themselves." major premise a minor premise and conclusion (read: "hipster is a demographic label that refers to a group marked by a certain aesthetic, education, geographic location etc;" blatantly-obvious conclusion: "hipsters, too, can be targeted and victimized by sociopaths").
Listen, I know that by this time next week we will all be back to barely catching-up on our RSS feeds but, right now, this is still fresh and surreal and fascinating ad absurdum. Given the range and extent of Kari's victims and the tone that is eerily similar to the post-Pederast Priest wellspring of the late-90s, people--many of whom make Sims 1.0 characters seem like Simone--making milquetoast remarks that have had no experience, either directly related or analogous to the situation at hand, is on par with someone interrupting a group meeting for PTSD-suffering vets and saying, "hey, you volunteered, buddy, you brought the pain and nightmarish agony on yourself" or "Iraq wasn't that bad" or, worse, "hey, you know your dead friend that was like a brother to you and whose loss you will carry around in your heart like Septimus from Mrs. Dalloway? Yeah, that friend. Well, he deserved what he got. He always looked like a tool."
Is this parallel hyperbolically inflammatory? Totally. But still. I stand by it.
Jodi,
Thank you for sharing your story. This girl's got so much bad karma stacked on her it's not even funny.
This has been interesting to read, don't get me wrong, and I'm glad you and your close friends weren't hurt worse, but... this is making me crave one of your "usual" blog posts about awkward situations and signs around Brooklyn and things you said inside your head that you wanted to say out loud.
You know, the ones that make me laugh and smile the rest of the day. Got one of those handy? No pressure.
Thanks! I will resume normal posting shortly, I swear it.
I knew Kari in SLC, and actually lived with her and some friends for 2 months before realizing she was attempting to swindle us. Her dog destroyed the apartment, things started missing and rent that she was supposed to give to the landlord was somehow gone... She told us she had breast cancer and someone was stalking her; she had these mystery texts on her phone from a blank number (later we found they were actually sent from her own phone). When I figured out what was going on I moved out and tried to get my friends to do the same, but she told them I took the rent money. Soon after she bailed and started dating some dude from the Utah local band Gaza- probably extorting money from them as well. Aside from lies that resulted in breaking up friendships that existed years before she ever came into the picture, she left an apartment in shambles (over $4000 in damages that a friend had to pay), committed ID theft and multiple accounts of check fraud in different peoples names. This was in 2004 in South Salt Lake, Utah.
My heart goes out to you, and anyone else who has crossed her path.
hey here is a new article about kari
http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_12160833
My sister hasn't quite gone as far as Kari Ferrell has, but definitely has a history of borrowing money from many 'friends' and family (as much as $1,000 at a time if not more), swearing to pay them back, but mostly getting away with not having to because she's both cute and manipulative. She's now in her thirties but still manages to swindle handouts from my retired parents, even though she has a full-time job and lots of designer clothes. She also had a phase of needing to sleep with people that her friends had crushes on. We had a fine upbringing, but one thing's for sure: she was very spoiled and very used to getting what she wanted. She always knew how and she still can.
Kari grew up in my neighborhood in Utah. I knew her family very well, and she did NOT have a hard life growing up and her parents did NOT abuse her. Her parents are very good people. She lived in a new neighborhood and nice house. She got everything she ever wanted.When I hung out with her, she never tried to scam me, and I don't think she lied, maybe because I knew her and her family.
She always had low self esteem, she would say she hated her asian eyes because she couldn't put eye shadow on because she didn't have the crease on her eye lids. She didn't like her parents, just because they had rules, which every parent does, and she didn't want to follow them. She always wanted to move away and get away from her parents, so I think she felt like scamming people was the only way she could do it.
I think Kari just got caught up in lie and lie and didn't know how to get herself out of it all. I feel REALLY bad for all the people she has hurt, BUT she is still a human, we all make mistakes, and this was hers.
Instead of jail time, I think she needs psychological help! I am sad and scared for her. I hope she doesn't decide to end her life because she feels like she can't get out of this mess.
Just remember, she is someones daughter and sister. If you knew her, the real Kari, you would feel bad for her and want help for her, instead of being so hateful. She needs help, obviously! And I hope she gets it, before it's too late.
Wow! Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
At first, I thought this was some crazy convoluted internet joke/spin thing...
But it really isn't is it?
I knew a girl who, though we hadn't really spoken in High School, became a friend of mine in college (The UK equivalent of your 16-18 High school)...
She spun lies about everything from imaginary girlfriends, a band she was in that toured America (the video tape of this tour was taken from her hand when she was taping a tornado! Yes, she really said that!)....a bandmate who had got a solo deal in the US, who then got terminally ill...at this point she was telling our friends that I had bullied her in High School, and when they didn't believe her (I was bullied, not a bully!) she created this whole drama about her friend's life support being switched off. And who had to give the doctors permission over in the US to switch his life support machine off? Her! No relation, no nothing to this 'guy' with an unnamed illness...
She basically tried to ruin whatever friendships I had (and kind of succeeded)...I know it is a single case, and her lies didn't affect many people like this strange lady has done to you all...
But I know what it is like to be affected by such vile, malicious people...and I am very very sorry that you've had to go through it!
xxx
yes, xxx.
This young lady is a mirror, & here's what she's reflecting back: over-privileged white hipsters with a command of the language who are just cogs in the entertainment industry going all Lord of The Flies on an absolutely ordinary run-of-the-mill scam artist as if they've somehow brushed against True Evil, which makes their panties so wet & their $300 Nerd Glasses so steamy that they feel safely superior enough to cluck, "so sad, so sad" as if they give a shit about anything besides who blew who & how it impacts their own "career" & social standing in their puerile post-high school cliques!Mr. Hentai, to which superior social class do you belong?
It has to be one whose members take painstaking efforts not to notice the world around them and not to discern the character of people you meet. Otherwise, you would know that none of the things you labeled Ms. Jodi and her friends are in any way,
shape,
or form true.
xoxo,
Kate
Miss Kate, I base my observations on parsing the very words of all the offended parties -- of which a boggling number have been spilled. As an outsider to your sub-demographic, it's easy for me to discern the sheer groupthink joy this bunch shares trying to trap this freeloading little grasshopper in their kill jar. Everybody's got their war stories or near-miss tales, as if this grifter-gal were a serial killer, a war, or a hurricane. I don't mind being called clueless because I'm not young & paying an insane rent to live in Brooklyn (oh gosh, that gets me right where I live) but despite what some yahoo blithely wrote a few entries above, "cool" has never been defined by "what you buy" by anybody but except by Madison Avenue, or a capitalist tool in "alt" clothing. This girl is the real thing, what Jack Black (not the unfunny comedian), Jim Thompson & all those hardboiled writers that I THINK you guys still read (correct me if I'm sorely outdated, & indeed it's all you can do to "keep up with (your) RSS feeds), living her life as she truly sees fit & seeing the world at your dismayed, bourgeois expense.
I'm sorry for any offense. Just chalk me up as one of those "mean people (who) suck."
Oh, Mr. Hentai. You're SO silly!
If you find us all so very moronic and disgusting, why are you returning here to read the new comments and then take time to comment yourself? To tell all of us nasty bourgeois pigs how things really are?
HEAVE HO!
A girl that we are all convinced is a sociopath found her way into our circle, and sounds very similar to this gal. She didn't steal a ton of money, maybe lunches and such here and there. She's more the type that was interested in meeting your friends that had money and dating them, or becoming best friends with your friend that can get her free into shows, blah blah blah. She was a user.
At first, she seemed brilliant, hilarious, lots of dirty jokes, and into exactly what you were. . .She was over the top with everything, but in a good way. . .in the way that made you think, what a good person, tons in common and cares about me.
Then a few months passed and we all clued into what she was doing.
Won't get into the sh*t talking, but more into the signs of someone like this infultrating your life:
1) They have no good friends from their past. All their frieds they talk about are "crazy" and have some ridiculous reason to not be friends, like jealousy and the such.
2) They meet you and everyone you know and want to be instant friends. Either instant myspace friend request, AIM, phone number, email, etc. Then they are all over you, praising photos, telling funny jokes, inviting you to everything possible, like you've known each other for years.
3) They strangely know and are into everything you are. . .and its amazing they like that obscure indie french pop band you do when they mentioned their fav band being Metallica when you first met. What we found she was doing is facebook or myspace stalking new people, finding anything about them or what they were into and then researching it and faking a fascination. . .I mentioned before, she was over the top about everything. . .
4) They keep losing their job and former friends...again, blaming everyone else but themselves
5) Extravagent lifestyle. . .knowing that this person made a percentage of what I did, but would go through a shopping spree that I couldn't even afford. . .dinners were over the top, etc.
6) There is ALWAYS a sob story. . .this happened to me in my childhood or I'm SO broke I can't afford to eat or go see my dieing grandmother, etc. . .yet they spent $1000 on new furniture they didn't need the day before
7) Parents called a lot expressing concern for their lifestle and spending habits
8) They've been engaged several times and become instantly infatuated or in love with someone in a week or two
Those were some of the signs I noticed.
Killing time at work! :)
Yeah, me too, Mr. Hentai. And I actually just wanted to say "heave ho" to someone. Your comments don't offend me, because they're assuming I'm someone I am not. It's good, that way.
Holy Hell.
This girl is a classic sociopath.
Check the list here and you'll see :
http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/traits/classic.htm
And she's not a successful one at that game though, many other people have the same condition than her but they hide it better.
That article as well :
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/169802-Spotting-a-sociopath
I dont know why I can't stop reading about this girl, but I just can't! I know so many people who have created such a web of lies as a shield around themselves, and it is so fascinating to watch it all unravel. It honestly makes me never want to lie or burn a bridge with anyone, because look how it can all come back. This whole thing reminds me of the last episode of Seinfield, when everyone that they had ever wronged came to court to testify that they were all bad people. This was a really insightful post, thanks for that.
Anyone who wants me to believe this girl is some lost, misunderstood soul who wants only my much-needed attention -- please stop deluding yourself. And while you're at it, stop rationalizing the crimes of a convicted repeat-offender with at least a 4-yr track record of illegal behavior as a one-off mistake. She's 22 yrs old, she knows what she's doing. What are you waiting for until you finally read the writing on the wall (or in this case a WANTED poster from the SLC Police Dept) and admit she's a genuine danger to others? For her to escalate her utter bullshit into identity theft or physical assault? She did indeed gain the attention and concern of people who befriended her -- then regularly proceeded to she use it against them.
There are clever, stupid and all other twisted kinds of people who are nothing more than ambitious, parasitic opportunists. I don't know Kari, but I've encountered her twin - Holiday D. - who lied, scammed, stalked and cheated her way all over SF, Chicago, DC and now, NYC. They're a putrid, subversive virus -- they spot a suitable host then mimic, invade, leech, steal and malevolently destroy with an astounding degree of tenacity which boggles the mind and boils the blood.
I've seen in Honduras single moms with 5 - 6 kids, emaciated -- starved nearly to death with diseased worms within their little bodies, yet they steal not one loaf of bread, nor item of clothing. Meanwhile this beeotch with enough cash to get giant, retarded tattoos is stealing iPhones? You're right, how deserving she is of my compassion. If a low-budge, covetous criminal deserves any compassion, let the legal system decide whether she gets sent to jail or a psychiatric institute.
The only way to stop the Kari's of this world is either to beat they're worthless asses (which I do not at all recommend) or to make it official at your local police precinct. I know you'd rather just forget you ever had to deal with someone like Kari but remember how you felt when you uncovered her scam -- and pay it forward by filing a police report for every iPhone or dollar she stole from you. Compassion for the next victim, NOT the offending perpetrator, is in this case the only kind that makes any sense.
She tried to get my friend to give her money for her "cancer treatments" not too long ago..
What a mean person,
I wonder where she is now...
I like the cut of your jib, Anonymous 3:53.
been there for 25 years.
Yeah, I googled "grifter evil" and landed on this story. But it's NOTHING compared to the grifter I've been living with for 25 years and couldn't see what my gut and brain were telling me all along. He is evil. In my own defense, I'm not the only one he has used and abused, millionaires have lost thousands to him but I'm the only one who lost 25 year believing that he loved me.
Commenter "Alva Nicol" was one of my friends back in the day. I'd like to think we still are in some way -- I met Kari right around the time I met him. She did in fact live with him. She told me that her room mates were hiding the fact that their landlord was going to evict them because she had a dog because they didn't want him. Sounds strange they'd really risk their living situation just to get rid of a dog.
In any case I remained her friend for several years.
She was a good friend, I won't lie -- to me at least. She never did any of these terrible things to me other than display vividly the hypochondriac behaviour. Which I learned swiftly to ignore.
I started getting word of her using my friends...I started telling people to be careful. I wasn't sure how far it was actually going.
I saw Casey, her boyfriend (the one in the Utah band Gaza) slowly tear apart...his confidence shot, and ultimately his pride burned out. Something that should never happen to a man of his age.
She used to ask me to take nude shots of her. She never told me who to. When I finally asked she said "Well Casey...and Bill." Apparently, she was playing some other guy of another Utah local band called Cherem. Imagine that.
I always wondered if she really had this affair going on or if she told me this to make it look like her scene points were out of the roof. Like I cared anyway.
I'm shocked she never tried to check fraud me and I've known her since 2005. She casually asked for money once or twice but I always declined with an excuse. Besides I wasn't in the position to just lend her money. I'm a full-time college student that pays up-front. Just couldn't afford to be that generous.
After the intermedia explosion, I called her phone number and told her to call me. She didn't answer. I told her I loved her and wanted her to be safe but most of all turn herself in. A few minutes later her phone line was cancelled.
Although she has done terrible things she is still a fucking human being. Despite what people might think, others have done far worse than what she has done.
I'm not justifying her actions nor am I trying to praise her in anyway. But please, have some dignity -- the lump sum of you who have never met her and are making harsh judgements by the stories of others. If you experienced something you have a right to talk all the shit you want. But seriously, the rest of you need to do something more productive with your lives than sling around shit-talk whenever there is shit to be thrown.
Miso----don't defend her. Not here. Yeah, we KNOW that she's a human being. Everyone understands that. BUT: she's a fucking shitty human being. She lies about having cancer.
this girl is just like an ex of mine named lia gett. wonder if they are related
I wasn't defending her. I know she's a shitty HUMAN being. But let's not forget folks, it's still up to everyone to have a sense of dignity when speaking about someone they've never met.
I also admit that I was pretty harsh on her situation when I found out the details of everything. I was turning over her information, writing posts about how we needed to catch her, sharing stories of how she fucked up aspects of my life...but I soon realized that sometimes all the negative things being said -- we need to look for some sort of bright side to all of this and not just slew the same negative babble over and over about her. I guarantee 4 months from now she'll be forgotten and no one will give a shit about what happened to that Asian sociopath from Utah. She is now turned into legal authority now. As of Sunday night. She will be addressed accordingly, It's just astounding to me how much people fed into this...and how libellous some were.
and u all thought u were getting a fabulous token asian friend... lol. u people r just too sad. what's even sadder is that u will milk kari story for a long time. didn't realize hipsters can be so sanctimonious...
Anonymous 5:43: Is it that hard to type out the word "you"? Is it? Please explain that particular choice to me, because I sincerely find it baffling. Until then: HEAVE HO!
To all of you who fear that Kari may attempt suicide, I wouldn't worry about it. I believe she is basking in the glow of her newfound internet stardom. Evidently, she is a true narcissist. That's all it was ever about for her: attention (and money). Now she's getting it. All of us are playing right into her hands. (As someone else pointed out, fame and infamy are synonymous in this effed up society - a society in which it no longer matters HOW you get famous, just as long as you get famous; it no longer matters HOW you get money, just as long as you get money.) Apparently, all she cares about is herself. She was nice to the extent that she could use that niceness to take advantage of anyone she could. In reality, she didn't give a flyin' blue-eyed fuck about her faux friends. To lie and extort in such a devious manner, and to not have the slightest empathy - that's a true sign of a sociopath.
Wow I'm sorry to hear about those who were victim of this Kari girl. I used to live in Old City Philly and Noel Branin is another Kari. She doesn't care who she hurts or how much her actions will effect others. Look out anyone living in Philadelphia because my friend spotted Noel back in Philly again!
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